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Aikido vs MMA

Aikido vs MMA

I was interested in your video on Aikido and MMA my Kido student for the last 14 years other various teachers around the world including some what kind of martial ones whatever that means the last three months I’ve been doing MMA it’s at East flight school down here Brighton really enjoying a complete complete difference I’ve been pretty shocked by how few of the Aikido techniques really work in that situation and pulled off a few cheeky wrist locks they have some use but not not really any of the throws I guess for me it’s like what works for Aikido or what works is the principles so relaxation leverage Aikido as a form of psychological training as a form of personal development I think has perhaps put me in bedstead than someone who hadn’t had that training coming in to do MMA so um yeah I’m curious Betty what else is out there he’s done Aikido and MMA UFC kind of stuff just exploring it myself really at the moment as I said disappointed with the techniques but principles see it still seem completely sound so I don’t know

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  1. The skirt is a Hakama and it's a traditional uniform to honor the Samurai. It was used to hide their feet when moving in battle. The dance as you call it is just practicing the techniques and throws and takes a great amount of skill to make it look so fluid. It is not a pre-arranged dance. It is not very different from rolling for example in BJJ or hand drills in Kali or Wing Chun. I'm surprised you like Wing Chun most MMA guys hate it. I love WC and Kali probably the two funnest MA to study

  2. I think that depends on the person more than the martial art. I love both arts but have guys in my Aikido class that would destroy the guys in my Wing Chun school and WC guys that would destroy some of the Aikido guys. I'm glad you like Wing Chun but would suggest you find an Aikido school and take a class or two before making you judge it to much. It is a watered down version/modern of the Samurai's empty handed fighting style which combat tested and proven. Best of luck.

  3. i think aikido will work in mma. It's just the way you train and learn in aikido is alot different from mma. You just have to know how to adapt your techniques and keep trying. Alot of the attacks from shomenuchi won't work against a jab, but i found that almost anything from yokemenuchi will work against a hook. Don't count out aikido just from what this one guy said, even if he has been doing it for 14 years, he just has to adapt.

  4. Why don't you try aikido before you go around bad mouthing it. Also, there are a lot of people on youtube that don't do traditonal aikido or have sensies that don't know what their talking about . But a practitioner of traditional aikido will be able to pull off techniques even on mma fighters. It also depends on the fighter, you could learn from the best there is, some people just aren't as good as others.

  5. If anybody has any doubts or misconceptions about Aikido. If you live in the LA or Orange County California visit Orange County Aikikai. Take a class on a Wednesday or Thursday night. I think even the hardest of fighters will be impressed and have a lot of fun.

  6. Most of the instructors are ex military or police officers, all have at least 20 years of training.. Yes fun, all training should be enjoyable and fun. Training should be fun and enjoyable with your training partners, if it wasn't I think I would just go to the bar every night. Most have studied other styles and we crosstrain in them after Aikido class but Aikido is what is taught at this dojo. My invite is open, come pay us a visit.

  7. submitter69 you go from Aikido video to another ripping it. Talking about MMA and why don't we see it in MMA. Yet you tell me you love and study Wing Chun. Let me ask you something. Where is the Wing Chun in MMA???? I know the answer I'm wondering if you do. My suggestion to you watch videos of stuff you like and comment instead of seeking out videos of arts you hate. I hate Tae Kwon Do but I don't watch videos of it and tell people how stupid they are for studying it. Grow up man.

  8. Hey ignorant dude ! I seen Ben Suanders have used Wing Chun in one of his MMA fights.Forget abt MMA,it's just for illustration only.Even in a streetfight I doubt those silky Aikido moves will work against a skilled fighter. Thks for your suggestion but i know better.
    At least Tae Kwon Do has more practical moves than your beloved Aikido which is made sillier by Men in Skirts ! Wake up,Old man !!!!

  9. Just curious.What's the difference between Aikido and Hapkido,which i believe is the Korean version ? Which came first ?

  10. Aikido. I don't think Hapkido was developed until the 50's or 60's. I think it's a great art for street fighting if taught and studied properly.

  11. Yes most are getting up there. 50's to 70's. Aikido is a great art as you get older. Not everyone is training to fight in competitions.

  12. First of all I'm not that old, I'm 36 I just started in JKD when I was 10 at the IMB Academy in Los Angeles. Believe me I'm not bad mouthing Wing Chun, I study under Gary Lam 3 times a week about 9 hours a week. I'm mostly a Kempo/Jeet Kune Do guy. I'm just defending Aikido because I started studying it about 3 years ago and I personally think it's great. It has really helped me coordinated my body and mind better. I think it is a very complimentary art but is not the most comprehensive art.

  13. Hapkido has a ton of kicks and strikes. It's a more comprehensive martial art and there is a new style of it called combat hapkido. It has ground fighting incorporated into it and I know a few marines that study it at Camp Pendelton in California and love it.

  14. To OP of video, your opinion is and experience is exactly like mine only I studied Hapkido for several years and then a few years later got into MMA. The Hapkido techniques were useful only in a few limited scenarios and with mediocre success and the training was not at the level of "realistic situations or sparring" as MMA. But really it does not matter I still learned a lot and enjoyed myself while doing Hapkido.

  15. well i spar with my brother some times and he does muay thai, i pull some stuff off on him, and he gets me with some stuff to. So i know that it is hard to change the way to do techniques but it will work if you just keep on traing like that for a while you can make it work. but since i don't have any proof that i pulled off those techineuqes on him i don't expect you to believe me.

  16. @mmachico . Youtube is screwed up and won't let me reply to you. UFC follows unified rules, they do not have their own. The only techniques not allowed are groin strikes, small join manipulation, eye gouges etc. ALL other techniques are fine. Does Akido have some magical techniques outside of those?

  17. Cage fighting is nothing like the street, in the street the person attacking you will be very emotional and violent! Most of the time more than one on one, use weapons, maybe even rape. In a cage theres a referee, judges, rules, doctors and only one one, with protection and they do it to earn money.

  18. I've been training in Yoshinkan Aikido for several years and this is the conclusion I came to. Aikido doesn't have any techniques per say, it is %100 Aiki. Every technique that is used ie: locks and throws come from jujitsu and were later transfered over and altered by Ueshiba as training tools to further explore the concept of Aiki, What is Aiki you ask, well look it up because at the core of all martial arts you'll fine this principle. Incredibly powerful, and incredibly effective.

  19. Fair points.

    I hope you continue to get some value from your Aikido training… I've practiced with some partners, and seen some schools (especially Ki Society), that involved very unrealistic situations. My humble advice would be: don't hesitate too much to up the resistance and challenge to moves people are doing to you in class. If they complain about it, and this complaining is consistent among partners, and especially your instructor, change schools if possible.

  20. I trained Taekwondo I while back. Very efficient, effective, and well-balanced martial art.

    But apparently there's two branches, one more oriented toward point competitions (which is more numerous in terms of schools) and one oriented toward combat. I didn't even know about this when I was training…but I later looked it up and I was in the branch that is combat-oriented, thankfully.

    But anyways I would recommend doing the later for your particular aims.

    TKD is fun…enjoy!

  21. Yep, a good part of the arsenal, along with muay and judo or aikido, and anything else you want to throw in. These days, one style is dated, learn a few then mix to suit YOU!!

  22. Very good idea, a BIT of pain never hurt anyone, if they dont learn to take it, whats the point?? You must be challenged to improve, dont be afraid to use a bit more force, just dont break limbs,lol

  23. WOULD being the operative word man. Where do these bullshit ideas about aikido being USELESS unless your actually attacked come from, lol. There are very effective strike techniques if you stay at it more than a few months , then pronouncing it useless,lol. Ahhh, joke city USA,lol

  24. Man, the idea is to learn a FEW styles, then put them together to suit you best, thats why its called MIXED MARTIAL ARTS,lol. BUT, the experience level of most in any style is in MOST cases, pissweak!!

  25. That amount of time will tell you buggerall about it!! Try a few years, and learn some advanced techniques, that you would not even have seen yet!! You got the right idea, i mixed four different styles muay and aikido being two, tae kwon do and san chi kai being the others!!

  26. I never said that. You can learn some very useful moves, but making them reflex takes time. To be very good at aikido ALONE, does take some time!! I said a FEW, not ten,lol. Same for any martial art!! A mix of a few styles is the only way to go these days!! So, someone who has trained MMA for a few years, will be competent, but do you really think it makes up for"20" years in numerous styles??

  27. I know this is an old video, and I currently train in MMA and have a background in various MA's including an Aiki-Ju jitsu type system. MMA is a great sport, but not the original NHB is was nor a litmus test for martial arts. MA's have been around for thousands of years before UFC used in REAL combat situations, used in taking lives and defending them. I feel Aikido is great in a multiple attacker situation, mma is not, and potentially more effective in the street.

  28. To be more fair to any MA foolishly being compared mma, give equal time in the gym, sparring a separate coach for standup, wrestling, conditioning, nutrition and free supplements, sometimes steroids and you can make a more accurate analysis. Early UFC said only BJJ worked, wrong, no TKD wrong (Cung Le) High kicks wrong (Mirco) Side kick wrong (Bones) Karate wrong (Machida, Liddell, GSP) so ya see MMA is young and despite poor commentary calling everything unorthodox theres still lots to be seen

  29. I'm studying Aikido – It seems that Aikido is a life skill and perspective on natural movement – it teaches healing, peace, calm, instantaneous karmic-correction, non-aggression and respect. If an MMA fighter threw a punch at an Aikido master on the street it would be two seconds before the MMA guy would be locked down. MMA/UFC is competitive fighting for money/fame – this mentality belongs in the dark ages. An Aikido fighter would never enter a cage or fight for money.

  30. I dont think a normal person will be any good on the street, defending himself after lets say, two years of MMA? Theres just too little polishing of the techniques. Remember MMA = MIXED martial arts. That means it mixes arts like Karate and BJJ. I think you should train those arts exclusively instead. And mix them yourself. Rather than have someone else mix them for you.

  31. If wrist locks don't work on standing opponenets why do they teach them in GJJ knife defence? I thought GJJ was the 'real deal'… lol You say wrist locks are useless aikido crap? Do you know that aikido uses wrist locks taken from jujutsu? Osensei never invented wrist locks. There's nothing new in aikido except a change in philosophy from jujutsu. Judo took wrist locks and strikes out of jujutsu to make sparring safe. Aikido kept them in but don't train close techniques like judo and BJJ

  32. Aikido isn't a fighting system designed for sparring/sport. It's designed to give you a chance against weapons and multiple attackers. Most aikido training is like training drills… it's to get you to understand the principle of correct distance, timing and redirection of an attackers energy. When a stronger person grabs you (wrist/lapel etc) it's very hard to get out of it, so you have to learn the technique properly. If you can't do the technique from a wrist grab, it won't work on punch!

  33. Most techniques in aikido work on a punch or kife or grab, but a grab is the safest way of practicing at speed. We start off by practicing static technique. I.e. when the person grabs you in a static and balanced position, ready to also launch a follow through strike with their free hand. It is much harder to do technique this way because your 'attacker' gives you NO momentum to redirect. After you've learned though you have to learn distance and timing.

  34. Everything in aikido is geared towards multiple attackers, not one on one fighting. And in that scenario we are taught that the worst thing that can happen is being grabbed/controlled, not punched or kicked. That's because if you get successfully grabbed and controlled by the first/second person, the second/third person has a huge advantage when they come at you. Of course evenj a black belt will struggle against 3 people. A black belt has learned all the basic techniques and that is all…

  35. You hardly ever see atemi (or strikes) in aikido demos. That's because although they are there, it's not the most important aspect of aikido to learn. Delivering them at the right time is. Demos are to show the principles of aikido of distance, timing and energy redirection, not how good we can strike. Aikido doesn't really 'throw/flip' people the way you see it in demos. Those people flip themselves in order to stay safe when taking an aikido defence. Most attackers in real life would get hurt

  36. We don't have green belts in aikido. We have white belts and black belts. That's it. Most people only 'throw' black belts, because a black belt should be able to roll/flip safely, whereas a white belt can be anything from a 2 week beginner to ready to take their black belt test (3-4 years if they train regularly 3-4 times a week). It's more fun to throw a 2nd dan than a white belt, because you can really do it at speed and safety. With a white belt you have to be too careful and so it's no fun

  37. Ive been doing well against some of them. Ive tapped out a 2 yr and a 4 yr student last night. Even though my ground game needs lots of work, it goes to show mma isnt the "best'' art. I will say that their more seasoned fighters would probably do very well in an honest 1 on one confrontation. Assuming no weapons, multiple attackers are present. I think the main weakness is the surprise it may be when someone attacks the throat, nuts or bites, it changes everything.

  38. I admire this guy's honesty. I hate it when people are shown that their chosen art is not effective, but refuse to see the truth for pride.

  39. What style of aikido did you practice? Did you practice it for 14 years every day? I have watched an aikido master defend himself against a mma fighter in a documentary. I would love to see more of that so that people watch what aikido really is.

  40. it takes local, city, regional, state, country, international…to become a judo or boxing world champion and takes 4 years of dedication to become an Aikido blackbelt which is the "now u can start learning " level.Another 4 to become real good. It sometimes takes only 3 fights to be the UFC champion and most can start fighting after a few months of training. It is true that aikido doesn't work in mma but it's also true that mma champs can't do what an Aikido master does. Comparison is useless

  41. A lot of MMA guys diss Steven Seagal but they miss the point that life does not resolve around MMA and professional fighting. It's like saying if u haven't been to war you're not a man which is actually dumb reasoning.
    I'd like to see them last 6 months as ueshi deshi(intern) at the yoshinkan Aikido HQ in Tokyo. I do not do Aikido, i am a Muay Thai specialist, but a smart open-minded and educated one. The more i see comments on youtube, the more i beleive the world needs more Aikido…

  42. Aikido is purely self-defensive and is not ment to be used against a trained opponent. Aikido is a way of immobilizing an opponent without causing any / as little pain as possible. Aikido works for the principles it focuses on. Aikido can be used in the world of MMA but is rather ineffective.

  43. For instance
    and this master isn't even from Iwama which is the place where Ueshiba practiced and where the real Aikido was taught. By the way, Aikido comes from Daito ryu Aiki-jujutsu which has even more technics but takes even more time to learn.

  44. falarverdade, i dont see any documentaries from your mention link, could pls make it as video reply so we can easily click the exact link..

  45. I don't know how to do a video reply, but simply put the 3w's before the rest of the link and it will work. The title of the video is "Aikido real street attack" which is a clip taken from the doc "Aikido, the Samurai spirit" which is also in yt

  46. check also
    this is Hitohiro Saito training with jo, but search him on yt and see if you trained this way, iwama style

  47. no offense man but i would to see a real action i mean in real situation like their fighting so i will see the styles….

  48. I have trained NHL and mma for sometime now. Please do not give up. The techniques do work but you need to apply them against a resisting opponent and you have no practice in that

  49. I've been doing aikido for 5 years and I do agree with you. I've started wrestling recently and its like getting hit with a rock in the face all the time. The fail in aikido in my opinion is : no stamina training + no real randomness & resistance. Its a beautiful art to watch but not really good for real resistance drills that BJJ, Wrestling does (and other arts). The part that I hate about aikido is that the 7th Dans with 30+ years of experience believe that they actually can fight.

  50. I had the same experience with using aikido in MMA, I do Judo now and I'm undefeated in a match yet aikido is beautiful to watch and perform but not very effective in MMA. Aikido is a art of beauty great for exhibition and internal peace not for cage fighting.

  51. MMA is a great contact and competition sport. Competitors are strong and brave and skilled, no doubt. But there is a huge difference between a martial art and a sport and it lies in the Rules (28 for MMA according to Wikipedia) They establish an artificial scenario when there are things you can and can't do. (i.e. no placing a finger into your opponent's eye). Rules are good in a sport because they reduce the chance to seriously damage each other (although is very risky for a non professional)

  52. The problem is If you have to defend you or your family or your principles in the street where there won't be rules, no referee, no 5 minute limit, no cage, no soft ground. They can attack you with a stick, a gun, a knife. There could be one or many attackers. The attacker(s) could be very skilled or not. They could be drunk or altered by drugs. So we are talking about two different scenarios here: one in the cage where you play for points and one in the street where you play for your life.

  53. Martial arts were born and designed with a scenario like the street in mind. There are techniques for attacks with knife, gun, sticks, etc. You can become more or less skilled in your preferred martial art, but the point is to make you more effective against an attack.

  54. To compare MMA and martial arts is like comparing baseball and basketball. They are just different and made for different scenarios. Personally I would like to attend both (MMA sport and Martial arts) although I am not young enough to start in MMA but I admire the competitors.

  55. Right tool for the right job.
    If I wanted to become a cage fighter I would study kick boxing and jiu jitsu.
    I suspect, if you train hard with cage fighting for about a year, you will discover a subtle integration of aikido in your newly learned techniques. And, you will be a better fighter for it. Anyone who has studied a traditional marital art for any length of time understands that you (and your body) learn powerful principles that the average fighter at Joe’s Gym are never exposed to.

  56. Exactly. There is a movie – "Fist 2 Fist" (w/Jino Kang) that depicts this very well. The film does a pretty good job of introducing you to cage fighting. Toward the end you have 2 showdowns, one cage and one street – and I think it is staged specifically to show the difference between the two worlds. I suppose it fails as a movie, but if you are into MA – I think it's pretty good.

  57. Great points tech2003usa.

    Anyone who has studied a traditional marital art for any length of time understands that you (and your body) learn powerful principles that the average fighter at Joe’s Gym are never exposed to.

    Remember aikido was developed by its founder primarily for higher purposes that have little or nothing to do with fighting or, as the founder said – aikido is intended for, “… the loving protection of all things.”

    Not exactly a cage fighting credo.

  58. dude there is no such thing as an inefficive martial art take for instance mauy thai it has never been able to beat savate but and they have been beaten by many other martial arts styles

  59. Hi mate, boxed at amateur level for over 10 yrs still train, been studying aikido last 7 yrs, and a style of Jiu Jitsu just over 2yrs. For me aikido is specifically for defence from being attacked. mixed with another art such as boxing aikido is effective…they say aikido is 80% atemi but I never see it being taught, coming from a boxing background I tend to use the atemi strikes as I would throw punches . O'sensei teaching of aikido came after he had already studied these other arts

  60. But he did say the principles work, and they would be more important than the techniques anyway surely?

  61. What some martial artists fail to understand is that you must change your tactics based upon the circumstances. You cannot fight a trained fighter the same way you would fight an untrained fighter. That's why in most karate schools you learn self-defense and also practice kumite. It's not that aikido techniques do not work, you just have to adapt to the situation.

  62. One forget quite quickly that Aikido is based on weapon techniques, all techniques work with a tanto or a katana in hand.
    The guy is right also, most of aikido is a psychological training, freed from brutality and violence brainwashing, wich looks like a good way to build, not only warriors, but men.

  63. Had practiced TKD for 20 years, Aikido for 3, some boxing for hand skills and Judo for grappling. Have to say was skeptical to Aikido in a fight situation but was invited to hit an Aikido instructor with any hand strike …he was seldom there to be hit ..moved with the best of them…his take downs..directing the attack were phenomenal..depends on the practitioner . I certainly wasnt a slouch at that time either

  64. If ur technique doesn't work practice more and gods sake don't be so slow or it can be resisted or avoided if u can't practice better get a new gym and trainer who cares if your sempai is a 3rd Dan or what not blah blah practice your technique with attacks outside of aikido and remember aikido was first taught to fighters who already knew karate, judo, jujitsu, etcetera… So it was meant to be practiced in different attacks instead of "hey throw me here's my arm" don't let aikido turn stunt

  65. Aikido is not the rote learning of technique, mastery of technique is not mastery of Aikido. Aikido is just learning to use your whole body, learning to position yourself with good timing and learning to exploit the mechanics of your opponents body. This is very abstract so a group of provisional forms are employed as teaching tools but they're not techniques as say Judo has techniques it's a method of transcending technique and producing Aiki.

  66. I've done it, I've gone off and tried shiho nage or whatever on a judoka and found it doesn't work but that was literally the direct opposite of Aikido. That was avoiding harmony and impose a desired solution on a problem. It makes more sense to simply root myself to the mat, moving with him just enough to maintain my posture, and wait for the judoka to get frustrated enough to give me an opening.

  67. Aikido has very many excellent technicians, people who can do the "techniques" perfectly. There are virtually no Aikidoka who understand the tactical lessons the "techniques" teach. They face up against a boxer and wait for the punches to come, as if you'd wait for the sword to be on the way down to enter in. Then they start backing away from the punches and kicks as if you ever back away in Aikido. Every "technique" involves entering exactly because if you back off he'll keep throwing.

  68. I'm a (really recent) 1st dan in Shodokan aikido (or Tomiki aikido as it seems to be more popularly referred to). Shodokan aikido has a system of resistance sparring, where uke holds a rubber knife trying to stab while tori tries techniques. Uke can apply kaeshiwaza (counter techniques). We do 1.30 minutes of this then switch. This comment is from the opinion of a mediocre competitor. There are shitloads of Shodokan guys much faster and stronger than me, and I would like to see how they would have done. I've never tried MMA but I've had a few goes with judoka and muay thai guys. The thing that I think is the most important in order to apply an aikido technique is maintaining maai as best we could.
    Around a year ago, I went to the local judo club and was allowed to do whatever throws I knew, as long as there was no striking (basically judo rules with wrist grabbing). As soon as I allowed myself to enter judo maai (close dogi grabbing), my techniques became significantly muted since that distance is how they normally practice, while our distance is usually an arm's length away. I have successfully pulled off multiple ikkyo and sankyo as a suwariwaza against their groundwork but only 1 kotegaeshi while standing. I did not try nikyo since I felt it was a move too dangerous for the wrist for people who don't know what was coming. Suwariwaza surprisingly works against groundwork…only if executed fast and sharp in one go. If that one chance is missed, newaza/bjj is the definite winner. Standing, I was thrown most of the time as I found that wrist and arm grabbing is really difficult. Maeotoshi (not sure what aikikai/yoshinkan/the rest of the world calls it) and kaiten nage (?) was out of the question since it was very difficult to get into that position without being grabbed by the collar fast enough. 
    Against the muay thai guys, I found it impossible to do anything. I got struck down everytime I tried to enter or grab. We internet aikidokas can keep saying that aikido has atemis however we want. However, we just aren't training how to use them enough, much less there isnt really a system for training atemis that can go head to head with pure striking MAs like muay thai. We don't even kick for fuck's sake, and we punch with a certain posture seen no where but in karate katas.
    I think a striking art is definitely necessary since without it, entering/grabbing/unbalancing is not really realistic. After that however, care must be taken to keep proper maai and unbalance the opponent while keeping that arm's length maai. My conclusion on this matter is yes, aikido techniques do work but only if we trained differently. We need much more exposure to live opponents (yes, even from the point of view of the person practicing the only aikido with full resistance) along with much more practice defending against striking and actually executing striking techniques.

  69. I am ashamed to say that I accidentally broke my new sparring partner's wrist and ulna today. I've been a black belt in aikido (and other martial arts) for years now, but have been cross-training in MMA only recently (only about a year and a half now). I should have anticipated that he didn't know how to go with the flow when I countered his punch to my face with a kotegaeshi, even if he said he's been training in MMA for six years. Now I feel so guilty for hurting him.

  70. aikido has been proven to be very useful against weapons when unarmed OR armed. especially weapons that require 2 hands. i assume because its roots are in japanese culture whose history involve samarai. other than that as he said a few wrist locks and MAYBE some takedown techniques work but overall it only works against people who do not know how to fight. the more traditional and brutal versions of aikido are a little bit more effective but still not comparable to mma. its like saying that a 19th century pocket watch is more useful than an iphone. yeah it looks cool and makes u feel good but its not practical in modern times

  71. It is a big misunderstanding that Aikido training consists of learning techniques that then can be applied directly to an opponent who is actively resisting. Techniques have always been intended to be a teaching tool for beginners to learn general body movements and ukemi (falling safely) and to illustrate examples of applied principles. For your Aikido training to become effective as selfdefence you need to learn the principples behind the techniques, so that you understand the context in which these techniques might happen. Further more Aikido does only work if you continuosly and constantly are receiving you opponents power. Aikido does not work if you are trying to put power into your opponent, because then you actually become the attacker yourself which can be used against you by the opponent. The principple of "receiving" referenced here could be explained as deflecting incomming force at an angle that will work to your advantage. Most Aikido training around the world consists of misguided interactions between uke (the attacker) and nage (the defender) where nage repeatedly tries to put power into uke instead of keep receiveing troughout the whole encouter. This kind of training creates Aikido people that believe techniques can be applied directly to selfdefence and to fighting – which is not the case.

  72. For me, Aikido is more of an "art-exhibition" rather than self-defense. Aikido is more akin to Iaido or Kyudo in that Iaido practitioners really don't know how to "cut" with live swords but they focus more on the "art form". The same principle applies in Kyudo, the goal is not to hit the bulls eye but to execute the "art form" while maintain a Zen posture.
    Most Aikido practitioners have weak legs and arms. Aikido doesn't teach their practitioners how to block, punch or kick. Also, if Aikido practitioners punch, or kick their opponent then this is not Aikido because it goes against their philosophy and values. As a result, Aikido practitioners do not "strengthen" the body or "condition" their legs, chins, forearms, knuckles, and fingers in class. Their bodies haven't really felt was it is like to "spar" to hit each other while training, or to "sweep" your opponent and finishing him off while he is on the ground. Because Aikido is derived from Jiu Jitsu, some Aikido techniques are effective. In other words, Aikido by itself is not effective but it is only effective because Aikido uses either the same or similiar techniques as the ones derived from Jiu Jitsu which that discipline is proven to be effective. The same rule as in Aikido applies to Judo. Judo is also derrived from Jiu Jitsu.

  73. That's exactly what Aikido is my friend their are no techniques in Aikido. learning aikido allows u to fully understand the principles that under pin every other art.

  74. same here in train aikido for 5 years,1 kyu ,did a krav maga lesson just to try get beat up in a spar session,but thanx to tai sabaki it wans''t worst.

  75. Yeah other then the odd wrist lock hear and thare my aikido did not transfer really at all and evin the wristlocks are dicey especially if there's mma gloves on in no gi i hate saying this because my sensei was an awsome guy but i feel i wasted years of my life doing aikido its just not practical in a real fight

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