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Who Killed the Night? | DJ Annie Mac on the Death of Club Culture

Who Killed the Night? | DJ Annie Mac on the Death of Club Culture


Sounding huge on your radio
this evening. I’m Annie Mac, BBC music broadcaster
and DJ. In my teens, I discovered club culture, fell in love, and
since then have been lucky enough to make a career in nightclubs. I love the way clubs
celebrate diversity, bringing people from all different
backgrounds together with one shared,
collective love – the music. The UK are pioneers of
dance culture. We are looked to all over the world
for our underground music, and if it wasn’t for the UK’s clubs,
we wouldn’t have genres like jungle, garage or grime. Clubbing in cities
like Berlin or Amsterdam is booming, but in the UK, over the last
ten years, we’ve lost half our nightclubs. I want, I NEED to know why these
places I love, that have shaped who I am,
are disappearing. What’s going to be here?
Commercial… What does that mean?
Which will be shops. Why are our clubs closing? A lot of it is just to do with
property development.
What do we want from our clubs? The DIY culture,
there’s a bit of a punk spirit
about wanting to club my way. And is anyone doing anything
to help save our nightlife? Despite the challenges, you know,
the future is definitely bright.
I spoke to clubbers to find out what
they think and what they want from their nightclubs. How often do you go clubbing? Every weekend, like Friday and
Saturday, every weekend.
What would get you into a club? If I’d had a couple of drinks
and the mood is right.
I like dancing.
I like having a good time.
And the good atmosphere for me is
you’ve had a few drinks
and then bam. Have you heard about clubs in London
closing? And is that something that bothers you or concerns you
at all?Well, I heard about Fabric closing, but I know it’s reopening
now, so that’s…
I’ve only been there once. Fabric is well known
around the world.
Councillors in London have voted to close the well-known
nightclub Fabric.
Fabric is one of the most famous
clubs in the capital. Its closure and subsequent reopening
made the decline of our clubs national news. Police had called for its licence to
be revoked after two teenagers
at the club died
as a result of taking drugs.
It played a special part
in my career, so there’s no better place to start
my journey than Fabric itself. I remember distinctly, about,
it would have been, what, eight, nine years ago now, coming to the top of these stairs
and seeing the first-ever Annie Mac Presents logo being projected onto there,
and feeling so excited. You were the first club to host one
of my nights ever, in Room Three. And… And I just remember
the feeling of just absolute, like, excitement and also, like,
wow, we’re real. It’s legitimate. We’re in Fabric
and there’s our logo. Wow! After a big public campaign, the council and police have allowed
Fabric to reopen, subject to a number of strict
new conditions. Room One. The legendary Room One. Talk us through some of the
restrictions that you’ve had to put in place to get this room open
again.So, we’ve got over-19s. We’ve got a new ID-scanning system. So although beforehand it was no ID,
no entry, it’s just now that gets…
That gets logged. For those people who do abuse
the drug regulations within the building,
you’ll have their ID on file. Yeah.So you’ll be… You know, they’ll never be able to re-enter
the club.Correct.Yeah. Were you in any way equipped for
the huge outpouring of support and love for this club that came
from the general public? The level of support
was the key, sort of,
driver to us being able to get
through this last,
you know, few months. Fabric may have started
the conversation, and I was outspoken in my support
of it, but it got me thinking – what’s happening to our clubs
across the country? In 2005, there were 3,144 clubs
in the UK. Now there’s 1,733. Take the city of Peterborough,
for instance. In 2015, it lost three
of its leading nightclubs without explanation. I’m here to
meet Amanda and her mates, who struggle to find
anywhere to party. So we’re here. I heard loads of clubs closed
here a couple of years ago. What happened? There were quite a few that went –
a few of the big ones that went.
Then all of the smaller ones
started closing.
There’s, sort of, a couple of clubs,
but they don’t get as busy
as what they used to any more. I think young people are tending to
stay at home more now than go out.
You’ll walk in and it’s just empty. It’s like so much pop music. But you’d think if there’s clubs
still open that everyone would be going there.
Yeah.Yeah.But they’re not. ALL:No.
Why do you think that is? They’ve stopped playing the music…
Yeah...that they used to. Like all the bashment.Yeah. There’s not, like, diversity
any more.
Where do you go now? If you’re going
to go out on a big night out, where do you go?Usually if we do
want to go out,
we’ll go out of town.
I’ve paid for a taxi before,
there and back, and it’s cost me
£100 both ways…
Whoa. Just to go out. But that’s
the reality of it, because
it’s so bad here, we’re having to
go elsewhere.
Do you feel like you’re missing out
on, kind of, club culture?Yeah. And on a community of people… I see people with Snapchats
and stuff all the time.
So how often would you…would you
come out on a night out in Peterborough? I refuse to go out now
in Peterborough at all.
Unless we’re going out of town,
I won’t go out now.
Because the last few times I’ve been
out, how early have I left?
Literally.It’s literally
been after about an hour.
A waste of my time and my money.
OK, well, as we’re here… Amanda,
you’ve actually come out.
This is a big deal. So shall we go and see
what there is to offer here… We shall.Let’s...at Solstice?
Let’s go. We can do. Take me out, ladies. Take me out.
Let’s go! # Oppa Gangnam Style # Gangnam Style
Op, op, op, op… # Welcome to Peterborough.
Whoo! # Gangnam Style
Op, op, op, op… # ALL:Yay! Oh. Wahey!Whoo! I’ve already got mine, darling.
Come on, girls. Shots, shots, shots,
shots, shots, shots, shots. Cheers. MUSIC: Macarena
by Los Del Rio # So, baby, if you want me… # Come on, sing it! # You’ve got to show me love… # Whoo! I mean, it was fun. You know, there
was lots of people there. They were having a laugh,
but it was so dated. It was like… It was like
my auntie Carmel’s wedding. They did the Macarena. I haven’t seen that in about
20 years. Erm… So, limited. Very, very limited in terms of
musical diversity, in terms of what I’ve seen
in Peterborough tonight. I totally get where the girls
are coming from. There’s nothing there for them. Girls like Amanda do want to party – they just don’t have the tunes
to suit their musical needs, and I fear they’ll miss out
on creating memories that will remain with them forever. My story of clubbing is about
the best first date I’ve ever had,
when we ended up at the Mink Club
till seven in the morning.
Going back 15 years, in the
legendary club Sidewinder,
in Milton Keynes,
at the Sanctuary, 5,000 people…
Going to Tribal Sessions at Sankeys
Soap back in 2003 changed my life.
The legendary Danny Tenaglia sets.
It was like a door had got opened
to another universe in terms
of what was…
It’s 4am, the DJs
and the crowd are at one.
It was just an amazingly special
moment for me.
Clubbing is still so important
to people, so what is going on? Why are our clubs dying?
I phoned Peter Marks, CEO of the Deltic company, who look
after 59 nightlife venues outside London, including Oceana, Liquid, Envy, and Pryzm, and he explained why all the clubs
are closing. Peter, hi. It’s Annie. I just wanted to ring and ask you
some questions for this film I’m making.‘OK.’ Why do you think that there has been
so many club closures, so many iconic clubs, in London,
specifically, and beyond? ‘Perhaps Fabric is a bit different, ‘but you look at the list ‘and a lot of it is just to do with
property development.
‘If you look at where some of those
iconic clubs, Bagley’s, etc, etc,
‘have gone, they’re not there
any more. They’ve been knocked down.
‘And, outside of London,
it’s nothing like that,
‘but there are towns that struggle, ‘and they struggle to hold
a nightclub, but they also struggle
‘to hold pubs, bars,
cinemas and shops.
‘And it’s a wider issue
for those towns.’
Listening to Peter makes me realise
this is true for Peterborough. The town is just not busy enough.
I also wanted to ask him about the council’s role
in supporting nightclubs. ‘I think councils have overlooked
the importance
‘of the night-time economy
as a whole,
‘and that includes anything open
from six o’clock in the evening
‘to six in the morning, ‘so it doesn’t matter
if it’s casual dining,
‘or cinema, or bowling,
or night club, or bar, or pub.
‘The key is it’s a £66 billion
industry
‘that employs 400,000 people, ‘and you lose your night-time
economy at your peril.’
I approached the three different
councils to talk to me about nightclub closure for this
film, but all of them declined to be interviewed, so, instead,
I thought I’d head to my old favourite clubbing haunt
King’s Cross, home of iconic clubs Bagley’s,
The Cross, The Key and Canvas, which played host to some of the
best nights I’ve ever had in London. But this is what these clubs
look like now. And that was The Cross.
The Cross was down, down underneath the arches here.
Yeah.And as you walk through. All changed.All changed now, yes. So, OK, what’s going to be here? What is replacing all these amazing,
iconic clubs? So, at the moment, it’s…it’s
down for commercial, so…
What does that mean?
Which will be shops. And you used to come here raving? Yes, when I was 18, 19,
I used to come here, when I was…
Yeah.Many a good night.
To the original Bagley’s nights.
To the original Bagley’s nights,
yeah.
They had, like, happy hardcore nights and jungle
nights and all sorts, didn’t they? It was all hardcore.Yeah.
All hardcore music, yeah. Yeah, yeah. ‘Ardcore.Some really,
really good nights. Yeah.
Wow. Wow, so this was… This was…a main room.
A main room, yes. Where the staircase that you came
down from the mezzanine floor…
Yeah.And as you’d come up, the DJ’s
booth was at this side of the room.
OK. As someone who came here and
has a lot of happy memories here, as a clubber, how do you feel about
these clubs being knocked down and opened up as high-end shops? Erm… I mean, it’s a shame
to see Bagley’s go,
which obviously was such
an iconic club, but it’s time…
It’s moving on with the area. But what about our clubs, Pat? Mmm, yeah…There was about six of
them and they’re all gone.
Despite being an ex-raver, Pat still
doesn’t think the redevelopment of Bagley’s is a bad thing,
but I’m not so sure. It was venues like this that were a
rite of passage for London clubbers. Whole music genres
were cultivated here, and a whole generation of young
people found a place to belong. If these clubs are closed down, where do we go to find
our home from home? Who is to blame for these club
closures? And do people even care? I think the club closures
are a very bad thing.
The closures, they haven’t really,
um… They haven’t affected me.
I think the clubs are closing
because the councils
keep wanting to, like, fucking make
flats everywhere.
After visiting Bagley’s, it’s pretty
obvious that property developers also have a role to play in
the demise of our clubs, so it’s time to confront one. Will, you represent the real estate
property developers. A lot of people are pointing their
fingers at property developers for the closure of clubs.
Are you killing our clubs? No. We’re not. Our developers like
to create spaces where you can live,
work, but, most importantly, play. They’re not going to earn any money
if no-one wants to live there.
They don’t like creating
sterile boxes.
They want to create areas
that actually
invigorate the community. How does it work when a nightclub
gets put in the hands of a property developer?
If something’s going on in a club that shouldn’t be going on, the police refer it back to the
council to discuss their licence.
The council decides if they want
to revoke the licence.
If they do revoke the licence,
the club becomes space to develop.
Then a developer comes in
and develops it.
There’s no collusion between
a local authority or a developer.
It’s just land.‘I understand
Britain needs more housing,
‘but I feel like Will was spinning
me a PR line. I just don’t get it. ‘How is it OK for
property developers ‘to build flats in areas
with great clubs, ‘areas that are culturally rich,
only for the tenants to complain ‘about noise so the council
come in and close the clubs? ‘Isn’t the vibrant nightlife
what brings people to these ‘areas in the first place?’ Despite councils making
licensing harder, and property developers
sending in the bulldozers, people do still want to party, and are finding alternatives
to traditional club nights. For some, that means putting on
their own illegal events. I think people like going to illegal
raves because it gives them
the option that mainstream clubs
won’t give them now.
If you wanted to go to a psytrance
night, where would you go?
Illegal raves can be dangerous. The parties are unregulated,
there’s no security, no safety measures put in place. Other promoters are finding ways
around late-night licensing by throwing raves that only happen
in the daytime. And pioneering websites
like Boiler Room, who went from a start-up streaming
service to global broadcasters of underground DJs and events, with
audiences of up to 400,000, are looking to the future for an
alternative clubbing experience. One of the things I’m fascinated
about with Boiler Room is this recent statement
that you’ve made about… about venturing
into the world of VR. So, we’re opening a venue in London which is completely built
and designed from the ground up
to lend itself to filming in 360 and creating virtual
reality experiences.
It’s really interesting to us
because we’ve built everything
in the last six years using a webcam
or a version of a webcam,
erm, and we focus so much on, like, creating a genuine connection between the person
watching what’s happening
halfway across the world
and the actual event.
Can you define what a VR experience
is when it comes to consuming clubbing through VR? I think the absolute ideal
is you can put a headset on, erm,
and suddenly you can be standing
next to the DJ booth
when a record gets rewound
and the whole crowd’s going crazy.
You can turn around and see people
side-by-side with you.
If I’m watching a…a rapper, I
don’t want to see them on the stage.
I want to see them
shoulder-to-shoulder with me
and feel, like, part of that energy. I guess taking a lot of the
fundamentals of what we do
with Boiler Room broadcasts is
always trying to make it feel
intimate, engaging, and provide that
deeper, sort of, connect…
That moment for people watching with
a headset on is going to get far
more realistic in the next year,
or two, or three.
At a point in the future, the possibility is you will be a
full avatar human being in the club, able to dance…
and touch other people. I’m just… It blows my mind. One of the reasons I have always
found clubbing so magical is the collective experience of the
dance floor and the diversity of the people
that you will find there. What happens if people
stop going out and only experience clubbing online? Is that really the future of
clubbing? I’m just not sure VR clubbing can
ever give you that same feeling of belonging, especially if you
belong to the margins of popular culture, and you’re
looking for a safe space to be yourself. Some guys were telling us that they
get on their Megabus from Glasgow,
and then they get in drag and
their face paints and everything,
and then they arrive at the club. And then they do the club through
till 4am,
then they get the first Megabus
back to Glasgow,
and that gives me such joy,
because that’s such a, kind of,
commitment to that one club night
that means so much to them.
That, for me,
that’s what it’s about.
# We are family # Get up, everybody
and sing… # Sink The Pink is an alternative
club night that sells out six events a year. It’s a visual feast and an LGBT
institution. Do you think Sink The Pink
provides a safe space or, like, a haven for people to find and
cultivate their identity? We started it out of a lacking of
needing that.
2008, myself and my best friend Glyn
were both in jobs that were a bit
mundane and we wanted something
that was our own,
and we’d go out to clubs and we
never felt like we’d found our home,
so we’d go out in Soho for him
to snog boys,
and then we’d go to straight places
for me to snog boys.
And we were like, “Why can’t we go somewhere
where we can both snog boys?!”
Eight years ago,
Amy and best friend Glyn, on their first night at Bethnal
Green’s working man’s club. Now, they fill 3,000-capacity
venues. I think there’s something really
British about the way that we all do
drag – it’s like dressing up silly. And it’s not like boys dressing up
as girls or girls dressing up
as boys, it’s just everyone
messing about a bit.
How do you feel about the clubbing
landscape in general right now, as someone who has created
a club night from scratch? The DIY culture, that always,
kind of,
comes through at times of recession, and there’s a bit of a punk spirit
about wanting to club my way.
Like, I want to do it MY way. And maybe bigger clubs weren’t
providing that level of…
..of punk spirit, or heart. # Oh, young hearts # Run free… # This punk spirit proves people
do still want to go out and enjoy the night, but in their own way. Clubbing is still happening… in railway arches, in factories,
in boats and basements, but these spaces are
challenging to run. Will Harold is a promoter who knows just how hard it is
to put on these events. Talk me through the basic conditions
that a promoter will have to meet in order to put a party on. Number one, you’ve got to find
a space.
Does it have fire exits? Does it have power?
How close are the residents?
And then once you’ve found a space, it’s, how big is it? Because
depending on the size of it,
depends on the licensing
application.
Once you’ve done all of that and
you’ve got a venue on a particular
date, then you’ve got to try and
book some talent on that date.
If you manage to sell the tickets,
which is, again,
quite a tough thing to do,
then you’ve got to operate it
and you’re being watched by the
council, the local residents,
the environmental health,
the police, fire, all these kind of
different bodies – you’ve got a lot
of people to keep happy
and people might get hurt –
that’s your fault.
If there’s a problem and you have
to evacuate the building and
you haven’t done it properly,
that’s your fault.
Being a promoter, you’re the last
person to get paid,
and you’re the first person
that gets blamed.
The licensing, the bar staff,
the cleaning, the venue hire…
In short, don’t do it. You’d be fucking mental! Would you rather go to a small,
like, intimate club, or a really big one?Erm, probably
small and intimate
because I’m quite a… I’m not
really a big fan
of the big clubbing vibe. I think the gay clubs are… I feel a bit more included in and… Interesting.It’s, like, safer.
Like, just out to have a good time.
And do you have enough places that
satisfy your musical needs? Not at all. Not at all.
There needs to be more grime clubs.
More grime clubs, OK? I’ve been talking to clubbers, and it seems larger clubs just
aren’t offering people what they want any more. People meet
on social media. They want to party in intimate
venues with the right music, and they’d rather spend their
hard-earned cash… Techno. I hate techno...on unique
events and experiences.
My conversations have shown me that
people DO still want to party, and that clubbing is definitely in
crisis across the UK. So what are the people in charge
doing about it? The Mayor of London, Sadiq Khan, has put someone in charge of protecting nightlife
in the capital – Amy Lame. I’m hoping she can save not only
London’s clubs, but that what she’s doing
in the capital could reignite the rest of the
country’s nightlife. Amy Lame, the new Night Czar of
London, the first-ever appointed Night Czar
of London. Thank you for having me to your new
swanky office, City Hall. Thanks, Annie. So, you’re really experienced. You’ve been running your own club
night for 21 years. Tell me more about that. I’ve spent most of my adult life on the front line of the night-time economy. The one and only, the living legend that is Annie Mac
is in the house.
We’re very excited to have her. I’ve also been at the front line of
saving a beloved venue,
the Royal Vauxhall Tavern, which, you know, we’re still trying to
save.
So I think I bring a unique
perspective that really comes from
the night-time economy. We’ve heard so much about club
closures, these iconic, especially, kind of, dance music nightclubs
closing, and one of the things that I have,
kind of, come away feeling slightly worried about
is the amount of redevelopment that happens, and then the, kind of, lack of a blanket rule for councils to have to put back in what the
redevelopment takes away, in terms of the culture. So, Agent of Change is a bit of
legislation that Sadiq Khan has
promised to put into place,
and what it means is that
those new builds, those developers will be responsible
for soundproofing,
for designing those new flats to be mindful of the culture
that’s going on around them.
So it means that they’ll be
soundproofed, they’ll be…
Perhaps it means just putting the
bedroom on the other side of,
you know, not facing directly over
the club or the restaurant
or whatever it might be. We know Agent of Change works
in Australia,
where this legislation’s
been tested.
We know that it’s also worked for
Ministry of Sound.
What would you say about the,
kind of, state of clubland today? Despite the challenges, you know, the future is definitely bright. The future is bright. Will Harold, who I spoke with
earlier, is about to open the doors on a 5,000-capacity venue
in south London. The idea is this is a kind of
a new concept
and an experiment in terms of
venues, and trying to…
We’d put on parties and that side
of things,
but also there’s going to be
things…
Theatre and other kinds of music
and experiential things and some
corporate events and everything, from ice rinks to ballet to theatre
and all kinds of things,
so the whole point is to do
lots of different things.
I think that the days of a club or
a theatre are quite old and just
moved on. I mean, I can’t imagine
trying to sustain somewhere like
this on a day or two a week
doing parties.
It just wouldn’t work. So I think
that the way things have moved now,
it’s about multiple uses, and
people looking for experience,
and a purpose-built space isn’t
necessarily that exciting.
I think coming into something like
this and creating an environment for
people to enjoy music or film or
art or whatever those things are,
they take on a different context
when you’re in somewhere like this.
There’s a few things that you’ve
said that seem really key in terms of the future of, of, of clubbing
and of our nightlife. One is that kind of adapting to
what people need.Yeah. And two is the, kind of, putting
back into the club and, kind of, being creative about
how you do that. Would you agree? We’ve had to become more and more
creative and to try and
work harder to find better spaces
and to survive and adapt,
and I think that the parties
get bigger and more special,
and we find new places like this, and, erm, yeah, long may that
continue.
On this journey, I’ve met the clubbers looking for
somewhere to go… Cheers!..the people closing the
clubs and the ones trying to
reignite the club scene.
Yes, lots of our clubs are closing. Club scenes make places
culturally rich, and that brings in money. Property developers then gentrify
the places that were once edgy and cool. But are there any real bad guys
here, or is this just the cycle of
city life? Amy Lame has given me some hope
that people in power do care about our nightlife and how central
it is to our culture. Clubbing is such an important, brilliant and vibrant part of
my life, and I know millions of people
feel the same way. That’s why I know that it won’t die. Yes, it’s changing,
yes, it’s evolving, but people will always
find a way to party.

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100 thoughts on “Who Killed the Night? | DJ Annie Mac on the Death of Club Culture

  1. It's London's club scene thats dead. Nottingham has about 6 different very good clubs within like a 4 mile radius which in my opinion is more good clubs than the whole of London has!

  2. 13:03 😉 'if something's going on in a club that shouldn't be going on…'

    pretty rare to find a club where it isn't.

  3. Good start Annie – Garage music was invented in America!! People have died taking drugs on a night out for over 50 years, so I doubt its just that. Leah Betts died in 95, and that didnt stop 'modern' clubbing. Maybe its just because clubs arent making money any more because people cant be bothered to go out and see the same old generic shit played out by shit DJs? You know Annie – the kind of shit you play, plastic generic EDM stuff, and really bad music dressed up as 'cutting edge'.

  4. Maybe it's because DJs like Annie Mac become successful. I went to see her a while back and she couldn't beat match for shit. Absolutely awful.

  5. Why should it be down to the powers that be to provide clubbing? She seems to forget that this whole thing started in the UK as illegal raves in 88/89, and was commercialised in the early 90s. All we are seeing, is a move away from the commercial clubs by investors. The kids who do their own illegal raves are doing the right thing; this is exactly how it was back in the late 80s…

  6. As clubs close others open, the whole scene is in a constant state of flux, this is not something to worry about, life finds a way.

  7. A club isn't going to make much money when everyone is on drugs and doesn't drink, the door fee or CD's isn't going to pay for it for very long. I think the so called 'death' of the club scene isn't really as bad as it sounds, there's a brilliant underground scene going on. Think of how many festivals there are in the UK now compared to 15 years ago, that's where the djs, the party and of course all the money has gone.

  8. I remember going to sidewinder and the coach was to be there for 6am n didnt turn up till 8am, it was freezing when we came out and had to huddle in a doorway like penguins with my friends, the coach turned up and the driver said 'sorry i overslept'. The only reason he did not get knock out was because no one else could drive a coach but it was one of the best nights out i've had.

  9. Clubbing venues are suffering as are gig venues its a sad tbh alternative club club anitchrist , torture gardens and many more thrive still.

  10. I go to a club like twice a week and there literally packed. I noticed a lot of people prefer late opening bars, don't get why though

  11. Look nightlife in Middlesbrough redcar and Newcastle all councils especially hull which council owns 3 nightclubs nightlife tourism is big business Leeds Newcastle Middlesbrough all realised this Middlesbrough council created two streets Bedford and Baker Street which both have unique micro pubs then go onto nightclubs loads teesside university was voted best university for partying lifestyle especially close to all nightsclubs and bars linthorpe Road southfield Road

  12. I grew up in a time where the UK club scene went ballistic. Crasher, Gods, Slinky, Sundissential, Sankeys, Fabric, Turnmills, The End, The Monastery (torquay – such a hidden gem). Little fellas were 3 for a tenner and everyone was loved up to the max. It was seriously the best time ever. Looking at "clubs" and "music" nowadays, it isnt remotely close to the same level. Go into a club now and people judge you as soon as you walk through the door if you dont have sleeve tattoos and havent taken at least 200 selfies by the time you have walked through the door. Fuck that. Around the Millennium, you could get lost on a dancefloor and come out with at least 10 new friends each night you went out.

  13. annie mac ruined the night by playing absolute shit on radio one and claiming this tunes a banger when in reality they where shit so more people turned back to rap and other styles of music

  14. The massive white (pill shaped) elephant in the room in this documentary is drugs. So it's a pretty naff conversation to have of you don't talk about drugs. Pills in the late 2000's disappeared and were shit. Councils clamped down massively on drugs (like Fabric) and like it or not, ecstacy is synonymous with rave / club culture.

  15. This isn't fit to be called a "documentary". The main reason clubs are struggling is because of regulations and taxes, yet she does very little here to address it or challenge those who are behind it.

  16. club culture destroyed a generation of young British men and women. hope it dies a painful and slow death!

  17. Clubbing is just old fashioned and tacky, its demise was the fact every mainstream club stopped playing underground music and adopted pop. Why pay extra when wetherspoons plays the same music and is open till 3am. Nowdays if you want to hear awesome music you save up and go to a music festival. Todays music festivals are better than the clubs and raves of the 90's, take it from someone who's done both. Clubs like Fabric went down hill towards the end of the 00's, bad atmosphere so people stopped going.

  18. fabric reopening is like a loved one coming back from a major stroke or a stud racehorse recovering from a broken leg

  19. That edm shite ruined the club scene. Bring back hard house/techno and trance… I remember when tiesto was good… the music has become to commercial and producer's doing tracks with pop stars? God help the club scene in 5 years time

  20. No one dances, people are so self-aware and in their heads all the time. There's the occasional rave, but people still have to be fucked up on drugs to let go… also, it's a boring generation, I know it's a bit easy to say, but it's true. But hey! Let's do the 'Macarena'.

  21. Honestly I think it's all down to not being able to afford a night out that often in certain areas, and the music choices.

  22. Peterborough reminds me of Thanet here in Kent (Margate, Ramsgate etc) shit clubs playing shit pop music. I'm a raver and at 30 I still like going out to jungle, Dnb, hardcore etc which is still around (despite what people say) so i have to go out of town like in London which ain't cheap but I find raves like Epidemik, United Colours Of Jungle for example or up north to Rave On The Tyne etc.

    Illegal raves are another good shout which I've enjoyed before. I like the DIY way we just do our own thing setting up events with friends (legit events) and creating memories for us and everyone who loves the music we play.

    Fuck sitting indoors watching X Factor!! I'm out there raving it up most weekends. It's a big fuck you to the local establishments who won't give us what we want.

  23. Sydney clubs died in the arse years ago. We once had a thriving cutting edge club and party scene. It was amazing in the 80s-90s. A combination of government clampdown, police intimidation and gentrification killed it. Also like in this doco they became too mainstream and the music turned to commercial pop shite.

  24. Well, this is what happens when the breweries get scared of ecstasy and use the example of rogue tablets sold by a few low-life cowboys in Essex. How many people don't want to go out now due to being smacked over by some drunken thugs? It's a self – perpetuating cycle of bollocks.

  25. “Hands in the air” has been replaced by “Phones in the air” it’s all piss now. America commercialism of it and dictating the shitty EDM sound ain’t helpful either

  26. Don't want to ruin the current amount of thumbs up – 303 – so won't give one.
    Edinburgh situation looks pretty much the same.

  27. why take away clubs, its a part of growing up and your personality, half these posh bars are all sniffers themselves!

  28. This is a major problem i found when i used to DJ, the club owners would moan as soon as i put on any underground dance tune on because "THEY" didn't like it even though when i did so the dance floor could go from almost empty to absolutely packed. So i would play their shitty commercial music once they gave me the evil eye and boom, dance floor empties. They need to realize the club is for the people coming not for their personal taste and guess what? Yup that club is now closed. The club in another area that was seen as its rival that was allowed to play what the DJ saw fit is guess what? Still open 20+ years later It says it all really.

    HAHA Exactly what those girls were speaking about before they went in to Solstice and what comes on The Macerena, that was the shite the club owners wanted me playing every Saturday night until i said either i play what i want or i walk, i walked. Why should i be seen as a shitty DJ due to their constrictions.

  29. she should talk about whats going on in dublin too seeing as shes from here and the place is gone to shit

  30. Not just clubs but vast majority of pubs have been shut down also. Councils refuse to renew licences if a pub or club has incidences even outside the building. Also smoking ban and expensive prices also has killed the night scenes

  31. Social media, n a nightclub you see all the posers and shit taking pics for instagram and all that boring shit. Forgettable boring music that gets churned out weekly (PVD – for an angel still the best trance song). And back to social media if anyone is dancing and having a good time (not posing, pretending to have fun) you can guarantee that the sadacts will laugh possibly even post it onlune

  32. It's a little unrealistic to consider the cool underground clubs as the only or best form of partying. I think the ex raver construction guy had a really good perspective: He had a great time raving but now it's over, maybe his kids will have a great time twirling around to folk music in a field, who knows?

  33. Underground, the clue is in the title Annie we don't want your loud gob introducing tacky commercial shite. …small cool clubs is muuuuuch better

  34. When I was in London I was shocked how much the clubbing sucked. You should learn from Berlin. It is embarrassing that one of the centres of the world does not have clubs running 24/7. At least from friday to monday.

  35. Jello Biafra is right. He said club culture is the Weimar era cabaret of today, because of its escapism and political apathy. He wrote Saturday Night Holocaust about this.

  36. I will be honest. I was in the electronic music scene from 1992 to 2019. And…. The one of the last who played some shit DJ set in 2018…. This is Annie Mac. I was always opened to the new, to the unique and to the cool. I was independent always from styles because I love the music. That's why her words value just zero. Or two. I'm sorry. This is my opinion.

    The club culture have the end soon because similar DJs on the top with their sentences, with their DJ sets, with their big faces.

    Example : Sasha, Digweed, Pappa, and many old DJs always give me a cool feel, a good sounds and super music to me.

    But…. This chick just a zero. I listened to some set from her, I saw some parties which….. Oh….. I'm sorry….. This is my opinion.

  37. A combination of things have caused the decline, the clubbing music used to chart a lot, it rarely does now as it's dominated by hip hop, R n' B, Little Mix, Ed Sheeran or Ariana Grande, so the late night bars only tend to play the hip hop or 'party tunes' because the management want the numbers in. Late licences for a majority of bars, pubs mean people don't want to pay entry fees into 'clubs'. It's similar for the Rock Scene as well as weekend nights have ceased in areas of the midlands. Sad Really as the groove, the pulse and energy made it so fun back in the late 90s to mid 00s

  38. I can tell you the issue in the US.They price out the people who want to go and have fun and the quality for the price you pay is virtually nothing especially when all the clubs close at 2 AM in my city.

  39. Festivals are the main reason. Some people would rather pay to see a couple of festivals a year than regular clubbing. Clubs are closing but theres quite a few illegal smaller scale raves popping up. Bigger clubs are closing due to drugs deaths in the UK.

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